Ok, I have an issue and I can't figure it out.  I can't seem to get my staff ace, Redwine, to pitch more than a few (literally like 3) innings per start.  He is a 5 in endurance, so I know that he won't be pitching complete games, but come on.  My #3 is a 6 and he pitches 6 and 7 innings.  Through the first two months of the season, Redwine was pitching 6 and 7 innings per start, but then he suddenly began to just pitch the few.  I have tried the hook settings and pitch count in strategy, but that is all I can find.  He is not getting shelled and pulled; he is just being pulled after 2 or 3 innings and ~50 pitches, even though he is pitching great.

Does anyone have any idea why this happens and/or how I can fix it?  It sucks to be paying him $15M for him to only pitch a few innings per start.  Thanks.

     I remember looking at Redwine and thinking "Why does the owner have such weird hook settings on him?"  If thats not the case, I have no idea.  I  know looking at his game log awhile back there were definitely games which he should've stayed in longer.  At one poitn in the season i remembe rhim being 4-0 with 20+ starts and a sub 2 ERA.  Just didn't add up.

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Shockz | St. Louis Storm

Ok, I am kind of tired of this.  I have kept playing with settings, trying to be patient and give it a whole season, but this stinks.  My ace SP Redwine, has some issues.  I think his endurance got kind of hosed in the conversion, but whatever.  The bigger issue is that something happened to him after the first 2 months of this season.  There is no record that I can find of him being injured or losing endurance ratings, but he has gone to crap as far as innings per start.  I am not sure what happened to him at the end of May, but his output basically has been cut in half ever since.


He are a few numbers:

Over the last 3 seasons in version 6.5, he had an endurance of 5/8 (~63%) and pitched 206.1, 206.1 and 258.1 innings.  He averaged 15 wins and 11 losses (26 decisions) in 37 starts and averaged 6.1 innings per start.

In version 2007, he has an endurance rating of 5/10 (50%) and has managed to only pitch 145.1 innings.  He has a record of 4 wins and 0 losses (4 lousy decisions) in 35 starts.  He has only pitched more than 4 innings 13 times and 10 of those were in April and May.  In April and May, he averaged 5.87 innings and 83.2 pitches per start and the rest of the season he has averaged 3.03 innings and 51.3 pitches per start.

I don't think that I have ever complained before in the league and I hate to start now, but I am really kind of ticked off that my $15.0M starter, while dominate as hell, will only pitch about 3 innings a start.  Especially when I look at him after a sim and he pitched 2 days ago and he is 100% rested.  I mean, if he was so tired that he had to be removed after 3 innings and 51 pitches, how does he recover to 100% in 2 days?!  It doesn't make any sense to me and I am to the point of maybe next season having to make him a $15.0M closer, but that sure would suck.

Anyway, does anyone have any idea why he might have gone to heck after the first 2 months and/or why he gets pulled so quickly, yet doesn't ever appear to be tired?

After a 3 inning outing is he "totally exhausted"?   Not  2 days later, but the day of.  My guess is that since his duration is only 5 he can only throw a certain number of pitches before he gets tired, but he recovers as fast as other pitchers--so in two days, he is fully rested.

I cannot believe that he converted to a 5 though.  He should have been at least a 6, even if he was at the low end of the 5/8 range.  Changing him would make sense, but would set a precedent.  In the past I do not think we did this unfortunately.  And there was the famed "stuff" bug when we converted from OOTP4 to OOTP5.  I'd say around three good pitchers were lost due to that issue.

The only idea that I would have for you (if this is allowable & possible) is to renogotiate his contract.

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Berd
Manager, Latrobe Lightning

I'm in your division and my opinion is that he should be adjusted.  I can't reasonably expect you to have to deal with a change in the program that doesn't allow the pitcher to pitch the innings expected of a starter.  I know this would possibly open some flood gates but we should at least adjust Redwine to 6/10 and keep an eye on how many innings he is getting through.  If that can't be done I don't think OP should be saddled with the contract as is.

 

My .02

Zayx  

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Chessie Ironhorse

seems to me like it's a bug, in addition to whatever he may have lost in endurance in the version change.

To go from averaging 80+ pitches a start at the beginning of the season to 50ish pitches a start now seems like the bigger issue.  Has anyone tried to post about this on the OOTP boards?  Perhaps someone else has run into this situation?

I'm not opposed to upping his duration to 6 if that will "fix" this bug.

Tempus

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South Beach Sunburn GM

I'll look into this as well. It's quite possible, and I think I've mentioned this in the past, that 2007 is a little more realistic about 5-6 Endurance pitchers than 6.5 was, but it is odd that his innings would drop off DURING the season like that.

I'll look at it and also comb through the 2007 boards.